CERN Safety Alarm System Supervisory Board

Minutes of the meeting no. 3 held on 06.07.2000

Subjects:
Author: Uwe EPTING
Participants: Pal ANDERSSEN (SL), Fabrizio BALDA (ST), Alain CHOUVELON (TIS), Paolo CIRIANI (ST), Uwe EPTING (ST) (Secretary), Andre FAUGIER (AC), Silvia GRAU (ST), Harry LAEGER (ST), Pierre NININ (ST), Keith POTTER (EST), Dietrich SCHINZEL (EP), Helmut SCHONBACHER (TIS) (Chairman), Carlos SOLER (ST), Wolfgang WEINGARTEN (TIS)
Distribution: Participants, Manuel DELFINO (IT), Paul FAUGERAS (AC), Giorgio GOGGI (EP), Dietrich GUSEWELL (EST), Kurt HUBNER (DG), Philippe LEBRUN (LHC), Jurgen MAY (DG), Stephen MYERS (SL), Rui NUNES (ST), Alberto SCARAMELLI (ST), Carlos SOLER (ST)

Approval of the minutes of the first and second meeting

The minutes of the first meeting have been approved and will be published officially.

H. Laeger will check the actual number of Level 3 alarms for LEP L3 to be able to compare them with the future ATLAS requirements.

D. Schinzel proposed to write eventually a common dictionary to avoid confusion when using the same terminology but meaning different things.

W.Weingarten wants a clarification from the CSAM project. Which alarm levels are covered by the project? P. Ninin: CSAM integrates all alarms coming from safety equipment. That means that all level 3 alarms, but also technical alarms (level 2 alarms), like a defect of a fire detection central, have to be considered by the project.

Technical Specification for CSAM

The mainly finished draft version of the CSAM URD (User Requirements Document) is available at the CSAM web page. TIS, the GLIMOSes for the experiments, ST/AA and ST/MO have discussed this document since the beginning of the CSAM project and already before in the AL3WG. The link to the CSAM web page and the related documents will be published again with the minutes.

P.Ninin presented the CSAM project outline. Today’s presentation topics were:

A. Chouvelon is participating in the CSAM project and gives a lot of advice concerning the TIS regulations and safety requirements. You may find the complete presentation at http://st.web.cern.ch/st/mo/CSAM/sup_board/minutes/presentations/CSAM_20000706.ppt or from the Supervisory Board webpage: http://st.web.cern.ch/st/mo/CSAM/sup_board/sup_board.htm.

IEC 61508

This international standard covers the safety aspects beginning with the first specification, the system realisation, implementation and the operation aspects. The IEC 61508 covers also the definition of Safety Integrity Levels (SIL), which will be used for the classification of the CERN safety alarms.

CSAM safety requirements: strategy definition

Remark from P. Ciriani: Accidents during the construction phase, which are not related to the "normal" operation should not lead to an "over-design" of the final safety system.

Risk Analysis: This will be done by the contractor. They have to proof the system functionality following the given risk analysis scheme. The commercial strategy and the acceptance tests and the system commissioning will be used to ensure the required functionality in reality. The market survey showed that presently 10 companies would be able to build the CSAM system. The boundaries of the project are set by an extensive URD, the analysis with the fire brigade and a prototype, which was realised in the CSAM laboratory.

W. Weingarten: Does this procedure and the risk analysis prevent us in future from the accidents as we had them in the past (fire in BA3, Uranium fire)? The CSAM project will not minimise the number of accidents, but reduce the actions and the consequences to a minimum after an accident. The definition of the necessary tools, the requirements of the fire brigade and the necessary changes of the actual system are covered by the URD.

The user requirements cannot be presented here in all details. They may be found in the CSAM URD. We should be careful to not overdo the system. But the budget (4.5 MCHF in total, divided in 3.0 MCHF financed by the technical sector over four years and 1.5 MCHF financed by LHC over 3 years) is known and is taken into account.

A remark to concerning costs has been made: If the risk is lower, the assurance might be cheaper also. This topic is not covered by the CSAM project and is not part of the CERN Safety Alarm System Supervisory Board discussions.

Contract Strategy

The contract has to cover the following topics

One contract will be established. This contract containing 3 working packages:

The necessary papers are actually at the ST specification committee. A first (ST approved) verion is foreseen until end of August 2000, the call for tender is scheduled for September 2000. All the documents are available on the CSAM web page (URL: http://st.web.cern.ch/st/mo/CSAM/csam.htm)

Questions from W.Weingarten:

P. Ninin asked if the board members agree on the presented project strategy. D.Schinzel, K. Potter and H.Schonbacher prefer to consult the documents first and do not want to judge only after todays presentation. The URL of the CSAM project will be distributed again to the board members with the necessary information and where to find the papers. The board members also want to have a clearer information about all CSAM activities without reading the mentioned documents in details. Today the risk analysis and the contract strategy were very clear. The project philosophy has been understood, but some more details about the real actions are required. This should be clarified in the next meeting at 24.08.2000. An executive summary of the CSAM Technical Specification (max. 5 slides …) should be presented to the CERN Safety Alarm System Supervisory Board.

The risk of 100% outsourcing of a safety system was discussed. One of the aims of the CSAM project is to achieve the goals in order to satisfy CERNs needs. That is the reason why the CSAM project looks at the complete project lifecycle and not only at the delivery of a product.

AOB - Presentation of the LHC Communication Infrastructure Working Group

Pal Anderssen presented briefly the communication infrastructure:

The common understanding from the board members are that we have to be sure

P. Anderssen will write a summary before the next meeting. Parts of the conclusions of the CIWG are already available from the minutes at the CIWG webpage (http://cern.web.cern.ch/CERN/Divisions/SL/groups/co/lhc/ciwg/ciwg.html)


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